tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post8979003331102984434..comments2023-08-03T07:33:41.442-07:00Comments on Idealistic Pragmatist: Do the Liberals have a voter database?Idealistic Pragmatisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18296481430598981678noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-69772485701686572602008-11-13T17:12:00.000-07:002008-11-13T17:12:00.000-07:00Example of bad info in databases:Every election I ...Example of bad info in databases:<BR/><BR/>Every election I get two voter registration cards. One for my riding and one for the riding next door. Bruce only gets one, but it's for the riding next door. <BR/><BR/>The reason is that we are very close to the boundary line for the riding, and whoever inputs the data forgets that 800 is the boundary at 840 is on the other side of it.<BR/><BR/>This whole area is apartment buildings and condos - I wouldn't be surprised if a whole lot of people were voting in the wrong ridings, based on being mailed the wrong voter registry cards (and they not being high enough information people to realize that the card they received might have the wrong polling station on it).<BR/><BR/>I phone every time we get the wrong cards, but it has yet to be solved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-83326973108401005462008-11-13T05:23:00.000-07:002008-11-13T05:23:00.000-07:00CG,Thank you! That makes much more sense.CG,<BR/><BR/>Thank you! That makes much more sense.Idealistic Pragmatisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18296481430598981678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-28981111842911826292008-11-12T21:52:00.000-07:002008-11-12T21:52:00.000-07:00The Liberals kind of have a database...it's just n...The Liberals kind of have a database...it's just not accesible to the people it should be, when it should be, and it doesn't contain everything it should.calgarygrithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14496123174056722783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-86574593703349577372008-11-12T17:00:00.000-07:002008-11-12T17:00:00.000-07:00Being the default middle-ground option breeds comp...Being the default middle-ground option breeds complacency and laziness.<BR/><BR/>I mean, look at what happened to the party once big corporate donations were banned.<BR/><BR/>If they had a database, they wouldn't have the fundraising problems they have.Ben (The Tiger in Exile)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15343544805893081216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-30169293222046600262008-11-12T16:07:00.000-07:002008-11-12T16:07:00.000-07:00C-a-L,I do read Dave, yeah--but that only tells me...C-a-L,<BR/><BR/>I do read Dave, yeah--but that only tells me that the Alberta PCs have a database, not whether the federal Liberals do.Idealistic Pragmatisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18296481430598981678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-24759229132756979642008-11-12T15:57:00.000-07:002008-11-12T15:57:00.000-07:00If you follow the daveberta blog, there is current...If you follow the daveberta blog, there is currently a discussion there about whether one of the Alberta Liberal leadership candidates is in fact using the Alberta PC database.Curmudgeon-at-Largehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12711926936968653119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-57793099015364097472008-11-12T15:33:00.000-07:002008-11-12T15:33:00.000-07:00Bob,Which situation are you talking about? There ...Bob,<BR/><BR/>Which situation are you talking about? There are a couple of different situations under discussion here.Idealistic Pragmatisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18296481430598981678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-47086331221679259162008-11-12T15:23:00.000-07:002008-11-12T15:23:00.000-07:00During the federal election and making calls from ...During the federal election and making calls from the NDP database in Vancouver Centre we encountered that situation frequently, also. When I was doing calling for the provincial by election, however, I did not experience that. <BR/><BR/>(Batted 50/50, BTW, IP. :) )West End Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899808253017644309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-26771355115164405062008-11-12T15:07:00.000-07:002008-11-12T15:07:00.000-07:00Hey, Denny!The kinds of database errors that resul...Hey, Denny!<BR/><BR/>The kinds of database errors that result from people moving around are to be expected, but they're quite different from what I'm talking about. I've lived in the house I share with my partner since 1999, you know? I suppose the phone number could have belonged to someone in Edmonton Centre before that, but it was an awfully long time ago.Idealistic Pragmatisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18296481430598981678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-6785634763345831812008-11-12T14:55:00.000-07:002008-11-12T14:55:00.000-07:00Ya, based on my experiences with NDP Vote in the l...Ya, based on my experiences with NDP Vote in the last provincial and federal elections, I wouldn't be surprised if this happen even if they had a database.<BR/>I would constantly run into people who had moved out of the riding (since phonenumbers often go with you) or would call a number to find that it was now someone else's number.<BR/>In areas that had high turnovers for residents, such as right around the University, I would find while foot canvasing that there were whole blocks of people where the names of who lived where didn't match up.Dennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03504852115380593351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-61884557238828711842008-11-12T14:46:00.000-07:002008-11-12T14:46:00.000-07:00anon,No database at all? That simply can't be rig...anon,<BR/><BR/>No database at all? That simply can't be right.<BR/><BR/>I mean, if they really don't, then the question right now shouldn't be why they got only 77 seats in the last election, but how the heck they were able to win the ones that they did get.Idealistic Pragmatisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18296481430598981678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-21750016948471576692008-11-12T14:38:00.000-07:002008-11-12T14:38:00.000-07:00I remember that I would frequently get phone calls...I remember that I would frequently get phone calls from the Liberal Party asking if I was voting for the "Liberal candidate." The key issue is that they didn't know who the candidate was, so they asked "liberal candidate" in the hopes that I would know. <BR/><BR/>So, no database, actually.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-62320458517167001202008-11-12T11:30:00.000-07:002008-11-12T11:30:00.000-07:00Bad data in the database. Databases are not omnisc...Bad data in the database. Databases are not omniscient. They are populated by people through tools, maintained by people through tools, and accessed by people through tools. People or tools or both can screw up at any point in that process.<BR/><BR/>Maybe the original data entry clerk chose the wrong riding from a dropdown. Etc.leonsphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11471170209182513667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-10240962028356377072008-11-12T11:21:00.000-07:002008-11-12T11:21:00.000-07:00Sean,Really? Huh. I'm trying to figure out how t...Sean,<BR/><BR/>Really? Huh. I'm trying to figure out how that could happen, and drawing a blank. Failure of imagination, I guess.Idealistic Pragmatisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18296481430598981678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-76261828206365738052008-11-12T11:08:00.000-07:002008-11-12T11:08:00.000-07:00My experience with the NDP database suggests that ...My experience with the NDP database suggests that the story you relate happens more than one might think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com