tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post1285162067844602052..comments2023-08-03T07:33:41.442-07:00Comments on Idealistic Pragmatist: The Liberals: zero to sixty in nine daysIdealistic Pragmatisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18296481430598981678noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-74939502800217220312007-09-30T05:09:00.000-07:002007-09-30T05:09:00.000-07:00Good point -- public funding is a given, these day...Good point -- public funding is a given, these days...Ben (The Tiger in Exile)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15343544805893081216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-74739736083552372122007-09-29T11:50:00.000-07:002007-09-29T11:50:00.000-07:00On funding, remember that federal parties receive ...On funding, remember that federal parties receive 50 cents back on every dollar spent during an election campaign, plus $1.75 per vote per year afterward. Which means that there's not much risk in spending off of a line of credit - but also that it's no great feat of preparation to secure funding which will be reimbursed quickly for any party which receives a reasonable number of votes.Greg Fingashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01506686081291502115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-13464769155396901322007-09-29T11:46:00.000-07:002007-09-29T11:46:00.000-07:00Wow, I'm wondering who's underwriting that... that...Wow, I'm wondering who's underwriting that... that LOC sounds like a pretty risky bit of business.Kurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06368539824809631000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-72147952548796086292007-09-29T11:40:00.000-07:002007-09-29T11:40:00.000-07:00It could just be a throwaway misuse of a term, but...It could just be a throwaway misuse of a term, but Taber didn't contradict Duffy. So who knows.<BR/><BR/>And about campaign finance, that's also murky -- how quickly can parties raise money under the post-Chretien/Harper rules? The CPC and the NDP had a head-start because of their grassroots-oriented fundraising strategies, but the Liberals are smart people who can get systems going very well themselves. (Full disclosure: I'm a CPC member and a sometime volunteer, albeit just as a canvasser in hopeless -- Halifax, downtown Toronto -- ridings during the last two elections.)<BR/><BR/>But hey, anything is possible. The Liberals went into the last campaign thinking there was no way they could lose to that guy Harper, and he stunned them. It could go the other way this time.<BR/><BR/>But it's a point worth keeping in mind when deciding whether to go or not... (I'm of two minds about it, even from the Conservative side, as to whether I want my guys to present a tough Throne Speech.)Ben (The Tiger in Exile)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15343544805893081216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-49972271005639805622007-09-29T11:28:00.000-07:002007-09-29T11:28:00.000-07:00benIf that is true, and the Liberals dip into it, ...ben<BR/><BR/>If that is true, and the Liberals dip into it, then people have lost their heads. Use the money you have, don't mortage the future in the post-Dion reality.Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-83383504443988597922007-09-29T11:18:00.000-07:002007-09-29T11:18:00.000-07:00Sorry, slight terminology mix-up.Duff to Taber at ...Sorry, slight terminology mix-up.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/HTMLTemplate?tf=/ctv/mar/video/new_player.html&cf=ctv/mar/ctv.cfg&hub=Canada&video_link_high=mms://ctvbroadcast.ctv.ca/video/2007/09/28/ctvvideologger3_190979292_1191016569_500kbps.wmv&video_link_low=mms://ctvbroadcast.ctv.ca/video/2007/09/28/ctvvideologger3_190979291_1191015193_218kbps.wmv&clip_start=00:02:31.75&clip_end=00:07:18.43&clip_caption=Mike%20Duffy%20Live:%20Jane%20Taber%20and%20Craig%20Oliver%20on%20a%20possible%20election&clip_id=ctvnews.20070928.00215000-00215348-clip1&subhub=video&no_ads=&sortdate=&slug=&archive=CTVNews" REL="nofollow">Duff to Taber at 0:32</A>: "Jane, you had a good little scoopette today, that the Liberals claim that they've got the buses, the planes, and <I><B>a 17 million dollar line of credit</B></I>."<BR/><BR/>Of course, we heard at the end of last campaign that the Liberals were out of business for a long time, and they've bounced back to the point that they're within striking distance.<BR/><BR/>And it's certainly possible that Stephane Dion will be PM by the end of this year -- one never can tell how a campaign will go.<BR/><BR/>But they're running up the bills right now...Ben (The Tiger in Exile)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15343544805893081216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-45794571079925805162007-09-29T11:01:00.000-07:002007-09-29T11:01:00.000-07:00Anyone have a link for the bank loan?Anyone have a link for the bank loan?Steve Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871113039374739208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-50997158832493781072007-09-29T10:50:00.000-07:002007-09-29T10:50:00.000-07:00Ben....actually I donate a lot more during a campa...Ben....actually I donate a lot more during a campaign that I do before a campaign. I always have. As long as the Libs look strong, confident and determined I think they will be alright.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-38666998507748560312007-09-29T10:33:00.000-07:002007-09-29T10:33:00.000-07:00Missed subtext: the funding is a bank loan.Essenti...Missed subtext: the funding is a bank loan.<BR/><BR/>Essentially, if the Liberals go into an election now, spend all that money, and then lose, possibly triggering another leadership row, they are f**ked.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure they'd survive somehow, but I just don't know how.Ben (The Tiger in Exile)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15343544805893081216noreply@blogger.com