tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post115678789711682959..comments2023-08-03T07:33:41.442-07:00Comments on Idealistic Pragmatist: I choose to call Lyle Oberg a blithering idiotIdealistic Pragmatisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18296481430598981678noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1158015053793660112006-09-11T15:50:00.000-07:002006-09-11T15:50:00.000-07:00Wow, if only I'd known.. one day in the gallery, a...Wow, if only I'd known.. one day in the gallery, and Brian Mason would be reading aloud a commentary I wrote?<BR/><BR/>I'm giddy just thinking about what I could have come up with, even though the opportunity is long done.Feynman and Coulter's Love Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05129851946309441082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1157438182584097052006-09-04T23:36:00.000-07:002006-09-04T23:36:00.000-07:00Ok, I should really reread before posting - what I...Ok, I should really reread before posting - what I <I>meant</I> to say up there was that the actual job description of a commissionaire should be changed, not going on about this conscionable object bit. Just seems it would make more sense.<BR/><BR/>There was also an attempt to pass a vote at the Alberta Northwest conference of the UC this summer to make it up to each congregation to do the paperwork for a reverend to become a commissionaire. Oi, they phrased it much more elgantly than I am doing... basically, had it passed, it would have allowed every single church to indepently decide whether or not they would have to perform all marriages. Well, thankfully the motion was defeated. Anyway, just another tidbit of information. And now I really should go, because blaming my incoherence on heartburn and lack of sleep is only valid for so long...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1157437350064829362006-09-04T23:22:00.000-07:002006-09-04T23:22:00.000-07:00Klein has endorsed the bill, saying it would simpl...<I>Klein has endorsed the bill, saying it would simply enshrine government policy and assist those who wish to follow their conscience.</I><BR/><BR/>Wonderful. Marvellous. Please do follow your conscience! But if your conscience is going to cause you to not be able to do your job, then please resign. It would be the only conscionable thing to do. Is it just me, or would it be more logical to try to pass legislation making it illegal to marry a non-opposite sex couple? Perhaps I should not be throwing these ideas out there...<BR/><BR/>And don't forget that part of the federal Tories are actually federal Reform, and they are more closely related (or perhaps only in my mind?) to the Alberta PCs...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1157315353456875152006-09-03T13:29:00.000-07:002006-09-03T13:29:00.000-07:00Rob Anders, though--that I'll give you. But he rea...<I>Rob Anders, though--that I'll give you. But he really belongs in provincial politics anyway.</I><BR/><BR/>Or, rather, he doesn't belong in politics, period!JGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00273619697804064873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1157188910966637922006-09-02T02:21:00.000-07:002006-09-02T02:21:00.000-07:00Dino,Members of the clergy--of whatever stripe--ha...Dino,<BR/><BR/>Members of the clergy--of whatever stripe--have always been allowed to refuse to marry people in their places of worship. Reasons given can range from not being "strong enough in the Lord," to not undergoing that church's marriage training seminar, to being too blond--it's entirely up to the clergymen. That's as it should be, and no one's objecting to it, so there's no reason to pass a law allowing clergymen to continue to make their own judgments about whom they allow to be married in their respective churches. <I>Civil</I> marriage commissioners, on the other hand, may <I>not</I> claim religious or any other grounds to refuse to marry people, whether it's because they're too blond or because they're two men. That is also as it should be, and the fact that this bill was defeated means that it will continue to be that way.<BR/><BR/>As for your last paragraph, you constructed an entirely ridiculous picture of what the "left of center" (nice American spelling there, by the way) would "get in a pickle about," and then tried to trip me up by trying to prove that the straw-IP was being logically inconsistent. Problem is, I'm not a straw-IP, I'm a real IP, and like I said above, I have no problem with clergymen in either churches or mosques opting out of marrying people for whatever random reasons they've always used. (I've seen you make some pretty decent comments at other blogs, but that was some pretty Lyle Oberg-level logic, there.)Idealistic Pragmatisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18296481430598981678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1157153663787927792006-09-01T16:34:00.000-07:002006-09-01T16:34:00.000-07:00I seem to remember one of the largest fear of thos...I seem to remember one of the largest fear of those on my side of the fence about SSM was people being forced to perform SSMs' against their will, and the entire left up in arms saying "NO, that will never happen". Now a bill has to be passed?.....nice....I'm not happy about SSM, but it's here and I've moved on, until of course the ability of Canadians to choose is removed, such as a persons right to beliefs.<BR/><BR/>What would the left of center say if an SSM couple demanded to be married in a mosque by an Imam? You'ld be in a pickle because on way or the other someones rights would be trampled on. Why is it then different for someone of another faith?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1157011457082116182006-08-31T01:04:00.000-07:002006-08-31T01:04:00.000-07:00wow what a group of losers that post herewow what a group of losers that post hereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1157011364406251202006-08-31T01:02:00.000-07:002006-08-31T01:02:00.000-07:00lol...it is amazing what you find on the web...lik...lol...it is amazing what you find on the web...like this...a blithering no mind, insecure coward thinking they are intelligent. Made my night tonight...laughing about how amazingly stupid you are. <BR/><BR/>Hope your salute to the KKK went well you anarchist. <BR/><BR/>I hope we can rid the world of your bigotry. I hate knowing you are a racist.<BR/><BR/>Since no one reads you...Google will increase your hits as a racist and bigot and KKK. Good news for you loser. Sleep tightAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1156868183003518082006-08-29T09:16:00.000-07:002006-08-29T09:16:00.000-07:00LOL IP, you are setting the bar pretty low, if Rob...LOL IP, you are setting the bar pretty low, if Rob Anders is your baseline. That would make Stockwell Day and Jason Kenney the braintrust of the CPC. ;)Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06509182679650412982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1156858181595968532006-08-29T06:29:00.000-07:002006-08-29T06:29:00.000-07:00Greg,Oh, come on now. Those two have done some stu...Greg,<BR/><BR/>Oh, come on now. Those two have done some stupid things, but neither one of them is quite on the Alberta Tory level of stupid.<BR/><BR/>Rob Anders, though--that I'll give you. But he really belongs in provincial politics anyway.Idealistic Pragmatisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18296481430598981678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1156851123357285572006-08-29T04:32:00.000-07:002006-08-29T04:32:00.000-07:00IP wrote: The federal Tories manage to be right-wi...IP wrote: The federal Tories manage to be right-wing without being stupid...<BR/><BR/>Do you include Jason Kenney and Stockwell Day in that statement.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06509182679650412982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1156798524614795302006-08-28T13:55:00.000-07:002006-08-28T13:55:00.000-07:00Alberta Tories may be the stalking horse for the F...Alberta Tories may be the stalking horse for the Federal Tories??<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the feds float topics there in Alberta to see if they've got "legs"? Just a thought . . .West End Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05757317517075393438noreply@blogger.com