tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post113440845445230633..comments2023-08-03T07:33:41.442-07:00Comments on Idealistic Pragmatist: Daycare: personal issue or social issue?Idealistic Pragmatisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18296481430598981678noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1134516768077658512005-12-13T16:32:00.000-07:002005-12-13T16:32:00.000-07:00wonderdog,I don't know about that--if you don't me...wonderdog,<BR/><BR/>I don't know about that--if you don't mention the economic side of things at all, people are left with the question "why should I support somebody else's kids?" I think we can come at the issue from both sides.<BR/><BR/>eugene,<BR/><BR/>Thanks!Idealistic Pragmatisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18296481430598981678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1134498495555291152005-12-13T11:28:00.000-07:002005-12-13T11:28:00.000-07:00I have linked to your comments on my blog article ...I have linked to your comments on my blog article Blogging Tory's Don't Get Day Care.EUGENE PLAWIUKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11736971647879996375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1134485806691796512005-12-13T07:56:00.000-07:002005-12-13T07:56:00.000-07:00I have always pushed the idea that the reason to h...I have always pushed the idea that the reason to have a national daycare program is to let people get to work, which has a clear public benefit.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, this gets perverted into "force mothers into the workplace as a form of social engineering."<BR/><BR/>That may be why you don't hear that angle being pushed more often. It's safer, in politics, to talk about "choice" and "quality" than to go anywhere near a discussion that can turn into "a woman's place" or "social engineering."AJSomersethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17373030698483060863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1134483651455423542005-12-13T07:20:00.000-07:002005-12-13T07:20:00.000-07:00Yeah, if I had been there, I might have pointed th...Yeah, if I had been there, I might have pointed that out. Though I doubt I would have been as detailed or as edited as this blog post:<BR/><BR/>http://www.bowjamesbow.net/2005/12/13/yum_crow_1.shtmlJames Bowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11888307747088266395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1134450853384362312005-12-12T22:14:00.000-07:002005-12-12T22:14:00.000-07:00Mike,That's a great resource! Thanks.Deanna,Yeah,...Mike,<BR/><BR/>That's a great resource! Thanks.<BR/><BR/>Deanna,<BR/><BR/>Yeah, it looks like I preempted the NDP by about two hours. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised I was thinking along the same lines as the federal party I'm a member of. :-)Idealistic Pragmatisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18296481430598981678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1134420736670108762005-12-12T13:52:00.000-07:002005-12-12T13:52:00.000-07:00Have you seen the NDP childcare plan yet? I don't ...Have you seen the NDP childcare plan yet? I don't think they posted it until this morning:<BR/><BR/><I>The NDP plan to improve child care and fight child poverty has three main elements:<BR/><BR/>* A Child Care Act to ensure that federal funding for child care is targeted at licensed, high-quality, non-profit child care.<BR/><BR/>* $1.8 billion invested in child care next year, with annual increases of $250 million for the next three years. This would create 200,000 additional spaces in the first year, with another 25,000 spaces annually after that.<BR/><BR/>* An increase in the federal child tax credit of $1,000 phased in over four years in order to help lower-income families cover child care costs and meet other essential expenses.</I><BR/><BR/>http://www.ndp.ca/page/2134Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12426618.post-1134410709638553592005-12-12T11:05:00.000-07:002005-12-12T11:05:00.000-07:00Check out this first:http://www.childcarecanada.or...Check out this first:<BR/><BR/>http://www.childcarecanada.org/pubs/other/FF/index.html<BR/><BR/>its a great overview by a coupld of Ecomonimists on daycare. They present it as a 'public good' economically speaking, in that, you don't need to directly use the system to derive benefit from it. They also point out that and shoot down some of the myths the conservatives like to raise.<BR/><BR/>And you are bang on in your assessment - these guys estimate that (in 2003) fully 5% of our GDP was generated by working mothers:<BR/><BR/><I>"..we estimated the contribution to G.D.P. of mothers with young children now in the labour force at about $53 billion, about 5% of G.D.P. When we further considered the reduction in investment in the long run in a now smaller economy,<BR/>the estimate of the loss was $83 billion , or about 7.5% of G.D.P. Put another way, a large part of Canada’s global competitiveness is due to the productivity of its working parents . It “costs too much” not to have these parents working."</I><BR/><BR/>In other words, a good daycare system is promotes productivity and is good for the economy as a whole. That means everyone, whether you have children or not or use a daycare system or not, benefits from the system.<BR/><BR/>Ask how many conservatives supporting cutting the GDP by 7.5% and see the answer. Sinking $10 billion into a system to create $50 to $80 Billion in growth seems like a good return on investment to me...Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06941875334878452635noreply@blogger.com